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Tabasco
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Aug 15, 2016 at 06:31 UTC
Morrison Technical Services Ltd is an IT service provider.
Windows Remote Assistance - in search bar type MSRA /OFFERRA and the box should appear
Note: the user will need to accept the connection
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Chipotle
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Aug 15, 2016 at 09:09 UTC
Or, you can log in as admin, enter task manager, go to the "users" tab, and right click the user you want to remote to.chrism1981 wrote:
Windows Remote Assistance - in search bar type MSRA /OFFERRA and the box should appear
Note: the user will need to accept the connection
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Pure Capsaicin
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Aug 15, 2016 at 09:35 UTC
You cannot do this on a workstation OS, it only allows a single connection, this is fine for servers though.JibbJabb wrote:
Or, you can log in as admin, enter task manager, go to the "users" tab, and right click the user you want to remote to.chrism1981 wrote:
Windows Remote Assistance - in search bar type MSRA /OFFERRA and the box should appear
Note: the user will need to accept the connection
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Pure Capsaicin
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Aug 15, 2016 at 09:37 UTC
remote assistance is going to be your only option in this instance, you can use SCCM to do this too.
If you try to directly RDP to a users machine it will log them out.
If you said you could buy or use 3rd party tools there are many.
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Mace
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Aug 15, 2016 at 10:42 UTC
I suggest team viewer in this case setup unattended access and your IT guy needs to login team viewer web console.
It will have list of computers and he can take connection to any of the machine.
Remote desktop into users computer will have other session on users computer, while windows remote assistance is another good option.
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Habanero
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Aug 15, 2016 at 11:57 UTC
3rd party software
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Chipotle
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Aug 15, 2016 at 12:57 UTC
- You did not say if the goal is to watch the user's actions or to actually control the workstation as another user to do things.
- Also, is it no third party because $0 budget or because no trust in 3rd party or because this is a rule of the challenge?
- Also, is it no third party because $0 budget or because no trust in 3rd party or because this is a rule of the challenge?
- For Windows 7, this is a violation of the EULA. I am unsure about Windows 10, but I would not be surprised if it was the same.
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Serrano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 13:01 UTC
RDP will kick the user, 3rd party software is your way out here...
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Cayenne
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Aug 15, 2016 at 13:28 UTC
As others have said, there is no option to do this with RDC. You should look into Goverlan as a well priced solution.
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Serrano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 13:32 UTC
As others have mentioned use MS Remote Assistance. I pushed out shortcuts for RA on everyone's desktop and now users can share their screens and work with other people in different branches and departments and this has been a big hit for them. This is only good when the person is there, if your looking for unattended access I would recommend Dameware Mini Remote. Put in the hostname/IP of the computer you are looking to connect into and it will use your domain account settings to authenticate you and allow you login to that computer. It pushes out a little client when you connect into the computer and you can also have have it uninstall the client or leave it. [I'd say leave it, so you can connect faster and get in and get out and move on to your next job] Good luck and congrats on the job!
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Poblano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 13:40 UTC
SolarWinds DameWare doesn't log off the users. It works great!
//www.solarwinds.com/dameware-mini-remote-control
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Pimiento
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Aug 15, 2016 at 13:46 UTC
+1 for Dameware, That is a solid bit of software just dont type the wrong details and remote into a director's laptop while its on the back seat of his car :S [wasnt me by the way] haha
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Chipotle
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Aug 15, 2016 at 14:00 UTC
I have this exact setup where I am and I push a GPO policy to allow remote assistance and then setup a shortcut on my workstation with the following property:
C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /netonly /user:DOMAIN\username "cmd /c Start /B C:\Windows\System32\msra.exe /offerra
Msra is great because it keeps a list of PC's you have connected to.
As noted in the reply's above, the user will have to "accept" the connection. It works exactly as I need it to.
EDIT:
Found this guide: //community.spiceworks.com/how_to/20886-offer-remote-assistance-using-the-ra-tools-built-into-...
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Jalapeno
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Aug 15, 2016 at 14:15 UTC
VNC should be able to meet your requirements.+1forwindowsremoteassistance.
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Poblano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 14:16 UTC
If you only need command-line remote access and don't need to actually interact with their desktop [you'd be surprised what you can do from the command line], usePowerShell Remoting [built into Windows] orPSEXEC [free from Microsoft]. PSEXEC is also one of the few methods for running commands as the built-in Windows System account; we use it to install AutoCAD remotely on workstations without users even being logged in.
Free with no additional software installed on the clients could includeIntel vPro [if your workstations support it].
If you are prevented from using third-party software because of cost or licensing issues, there are free options available.
For free use while still legal in a business setting, some of your options include Chrome Remote Desktop, TightVNC, Join.me, Mikogo, and AeroAdmin.
If you can scrape together $250 with no additional licensing costs, I would recommend DameWare from SolarWinds.
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Mace
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Aug 15, 2016 at 14:24 UTC
We use Dameware for remote desktop support. Works as advertised on the tin.Taylor282 wrote:
SolarWinds DameWare doesn't log off the users. It works great!
//www.solarwinds.com/dameware-mini-remote-control
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Mace
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Aug 15, 2016 at 15:09 UTC
just setup unattended team viewer and login from web console and see how wonderful to manage things
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Poblano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 15:28 UTC
The only option i can think of that will work that isn't a 3rd party is to use the built-in Remote Assistance feature. However like others said, the user will need to accept the connection. Otherwise you will need to look into 3rd party software like SCCM or other remote control software that allows you to login but keep the user logged into the machine.
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Jalapeno
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I use RDPWrap //github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/releases
Once installed on the remote PC, In the configuration, there is an option to disable "Single Session" [or something like that]. Which enables what you want [Log inwithout the current user even knowing about it]. It cant be the same account as the one currently logged in, though.
You can also use it to enable RDP on versions of windows where it is disabled [ie: windows 10 home].
My English is a little off but I'm guessing this is what you want. Let me know if it helped.
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You can also edit the termsrv.dll.
Source: //www.mysysadmintips.com/windows/clients/545-multiple-rdp-remote-desktop-sessions-in-windows-10
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Poblano
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Aug 15, 2016 at 15:47 UTC
I'll echo the other responses above.
And ... I'll remark upon your manager giving you work to perform on your days off. Technically that's illegal to do in the USA. If you're doing work on a day off then you're actually working and must be compensated. You cannot be an employee and perform volunteer work for your employer that directly correlates with your paid role.
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Thai Pepper
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Aug 15, 2016 at 16:13 UTC
Third party software is likely your best bet, although I did run into a blogger that scripted a way to do this. That being said, I would take it with a grain of salt that this solution could easily become broken with a well placed MS Update. Also, I myself have not tried implementing this. But with all that said, this looks like a real interesting solution and may be what you are looking for if you are not willing to implement a third party solution [NOTE: article is about WIN10 but there is a link to the original WIN7 implementation]: //deployhappiness.com/concurrent-remote-desktop-crdp-for-windows-10/
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Pimiento
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Aug 15, 2016 at 16:20 UTC
1st Post
Hello i dont know if you have a working solution yet but i might have one! No 3rd party software just a simple script.
Ends the remote session but does not cause the user to be logged out.
i put this into a txt file that i saved as .bat for simplicity.
without "s of course "tscon 1 /dest:console"
EDIT: I used this while running RDP from windows 10 to windows 10 and windows 7. over VPN.
Script must be run on the targeted PC. Does leave a small pop up window stating some connection was ended.
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Jalapeno
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Aug 15, 2016 at 18:27 UTC
I don't believe this can be done on a workstation, only on server OS. I have always used a VNC client like ultraVNC or VNC viewer.
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How to stop target computer log off when using MS Remote Desktop
Hey guys,
I am a Mac user trying to access my work Windows computer from home. I have downloaded MS Remote Desktop on my Mac to do this. I can connect fine to my work computer, but when I do it logs my work computer off. As I am running an analysis on my work computer that I want to be able to check the progress of from home, I need the work computer to continue running without logging off.
Does anyone know how I can get around this issue?
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Aaron :]
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DSPatrick answered • Jul 7, '21 | AaronLaynePhillips-7245 commented • Jul 7, '21
Assuming you logon RDP with the same credentials, it doesn't really log off. The local session is simply taken over by the remote session.
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AaronLaynePhillips-7245 · Jul 07, 2021 at 12:43 AM
I think it logs off because the screen of the work computer itself goes to the logged-out screen [even though I can see the session on my Mac], but when I terminate the connection the work computer remains on the log-out screen and I have to re-enter my password to wake it up again.
Are you saying that even though this happens, the work computer will still be active and running the analyses that I need it to run?
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DSPatrick answered • Jul 7, '21 | DSPatrick edited • Jul 7, '21
and running the analyses that I need it to run?
No clue about this but the session is not logged off unless you log off, or logon with different user credentials.
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yagmoth555 answered • Jul 7, '21
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You need to check how you quit the remote desktop software.
Clicking the X and not doiing other thing usually just make the session go into a disconnected state, which the session is still ON, not logged OFF.
If the mac client force a logoff, then click in the Windows session the start menu and select Disconnect. The session keep active that way.
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JennyYan-MSFT answered • Jul 7, '21 | JennyYan-MSFT commented • Jul 15, '21
Hi Aaron,
When you started remote session to the target computer from mac at home, scenarios will be different based on the account you used.
If you use the same account and credential which is already logged into the target computer, then previous session will be logged off and logged in again with the same account, which means you will see the remaining desktop since you are using the same account.
But if you utilize different account, then new session will be created for you.
Remote desktop client for mac is commonly used to access the remote computer instead of monitoring it.
For example, you could remote to the target computer and directly start the log analysis and it won’t be stopped unless you suddenly disconnected session.
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JennyYan-MSFT · Jul 12, 2021 at 01:26 AM
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Is there any update? Have you got a chance to verify above suggestions?
Please feel free to let us know if more assistance needed.
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AaronLaynePhillips-7245 JennyYan-MSFT · Jul 12, 2021 at 03:03 AM
It explains why the target computer logs off when accessed using a second computer, but it does not fix the problem. I need to sign into the same account as I need to be signed into an account for a process to be running.
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JennyYan-MSFT AaronLaynePhillips-7245 · Jul 12, 2021 at 07:51 AM
Hi,
If then, two suggestions that you may have a check.
First, instead of locally logging in to the target computer and run the analysis, directly remote to the computer from home and keep the analysis running in the remote session.
The limit here is you are not allowed to switch between remote connection and Local login session if you would like to monitor the analysis at home.
Second, since the reconnection is by design feature with remote connection client for Mac, you may look for if there is any other monitor tool could remotely access the computer in the company in App store, which you could seek advice in the support forum of Apple.
//discussions.apple.com/welcome
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Just checking if there's any progress or updates?
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As mentioned byHari VS_Kid,only one GUI session is possible with Windows 7. But you can establish a CLI session with powershell:
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How To Set Up Multiple Remote Desktop Connections
RDP Wrapper: Enabling Multiple RDP Sessions on Windows 10
One option to enable remote desktop for multiple users on Windows 10 is by using the RDP Wrapper Library. The RDP Wrapper project permits users to support more than one simultaneous RDP session on Windows 10 [without replacing the termsrv.dll file].
RDP Wrapper acts as a layer between the Remote Desktop Service, and Service Control Manager [SCM]. RDPWrap lets users enable support for multiple simultaneous RDP sessions, as well as enabling support of RDP Hosts on previously inaccessible Windows 10 versions, like Home.
This app doesn’t alter the termsrv.dll file, only loading the “termsrv” library with the altered parameters necessary for simultaneous connection. Meaning, RDPWrap will even work if the termsrv.dll file updates, meaning that users don’t have to dread Windows updates.
Please note: Prior to the installation of the RDP Wrapper library, users must ensure they’re using the original [unpatched] version of the “termsrv.dll” file. If they don’t use the unpatched file, the app may not function properly or won’t function at all.
Users can download RDP Wrapper from the GitHub Repository [v1.6.2 is the latest available version of RDP Wrapper Library].
According to the information on the developer page, all versions of Windows are supported [Windows 10 support is available up to the 1809 build].
Users will find the following files contained within the RDPWrap-v1.6.2.zip archive:
- • RDPWinst.exe [RDP Wrapper Library installation/uninstallation program].
- • RDPConf.exe [RDP Wrapper configuration utility].
- • RDPCheck.exe [Local RDP Checker, RDP check utility].
- • install.bat, uninstall.bat, update.bat [batch files for install, uninstall, and updates for RDP Wrapper].
Run the install.bat with the Administrator privileges to install RDPWrap. The utility will access the GitHub site for the most recent versions of the “ini” file during the installation.
RDP Wrap will be installed in the C:\Program Files\RDP Wrapper directory.
Once installation is complete, users should run the RDPConfig.exe.
In the “Diagnostics” section, ensure all elements are green [see below].
Run the RDPCheck.exe, then attempt to start a secondary RDP session [or connect multiple RDP sessions from remote computers].
That’s it! Now the Windows 10 machine should permit multiple users to access different RDP sessions simultaneously.
All Windows editions [Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10] are supported by the RDPWrap utility. Meaning that users can establish a terminal [RDS] server on any desktop instance of Windows.
Additional noteworthy RDP Wrapper features:
- • The “Hide users on logon screen” option allows administrators to conceal user lists from the Windows Logon Screen.
- • If users disable the “Single session per user” option, more than one simultaneous RDP session will work under the same user account [the registry parameter “fSingleSessionPerUser = 0” is set under the key “HKLM\SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\fSingleSessionPerUser”].
- • Users can edit the Remote Desktop port number from 3389 to a different number of their choosing.
- • The “Session Shadowing Mode” section lets users reconfigure the remote control [shadow] connection permissions to Windows 10 RDP sessions.
Remote Desktop for Multiple Users on Windows 7 Solution
Fortunately, there is a workaround that will enable multiple RDP sessions on a Windows 7 operating system that only requires a few simple steps. Developer Deepxw created a handy unofficial modification called theUniversal Termsrv.dllPatch that will override this setting to allow multiple remote desktop sessions on Windows 7 computers [this solution will also work for earlier versions of Windows]. Users will even be able to use the same applications simultaneously.
Note:Before starting this process, it is important to note that using this workaround is a violation of the Microsoft License Agreement.
Applying the multiple RDP users patch
After downloading the file, start by creating a backup of termsrv.dll before you apply this patch. The program will automatically create a backup file but there’s no harm in creating another one for some added security and peace of mind.
You will find the file in the C:WindowsSystem32 directory. To undo the Registry changes it makes, you can save the .reg file that’s included with the download and manually edit the Registry to remove the changes shown in the .reg file.
After creating a manual backup, follow these steps:
After downloading theUniversal Termsrv.dll Patchand creating a backup [file download link updated 8/20/2020 with correct download] extract the ZIP file. Deepxw lists 32-bit [x86] and 64-bit [x64] OS support for the patch on Windows XP SP2 SP3, Windows Vista SP1 SP2, and Windows 7 operating systems. You can find more information on this patch on Deepxw’sblog.
Find the patch program you should run based upon your processor. For 32-bit [x86] it’sUniversalTermsrvPatch-x86.exe, and for 64-bit [amd64] it’sUniversalTermsrvPatch-x64.exe.
Figure 1. Screen capture from deepxw.blogspot.com: 3 clients and 1 local console connect to Windows 7 RC 6.1.7100.0.
For Windows 7 and Windows Vista, you will want to save the vista.reg. For users still operating Windows XP, you’ll want to save the xp.reg file.
Right-click on the patch program and select to Run as administrator.
On the program, click the Patch button and it will replace the Termsrv.dll file and perform the Registry modification. It will also save a backup so you can later undo the modification if desired.
Next, restart your computer for the modification to take effect
Now you just need to enable incoming remote desktop connections. Here’s how to do so with Windows 7 or Vista:
Right-click on Computer from the Start Menu and select properties.
Click Remote settings on the left.
Under Remote Desktop, select one of the three options.
Administrators on the computer will automatically be added to the list of remote users but if you need to add standard users, click Select Users.
Now you should be able to connect multiple user remote sessions to your pc with ease.